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INTERVIEW: Steve Miller, Being In The Fix & Editing The Touch & Go Phone Book

"The year Touch And Go Magazine ran its last issue, I had just hit my teenage years in northern Colorado. I was listening to Cheap Trick and Pink Floyd on my Walkman as I trudged along my paper route in a foot of snow. Trading a couple of tapes with junior high school pals led to my discovery of what we then called "college rock". It was this discovery that led to my obsessive teenage self seeing the Minutemen open for R.E.M. in 1985. For me, that moment was the beginning of the end. Whatever punk and hardcore was selling at that moment, I’m still voraciously buying all these years later. By the late ‘80s, I had become a feverish cross-referencer. Seeing one name on the back of an album would send my pursuits in a million different directions. From my tiny bedroom, letters would be sent out to labels asking for catalogs and bands asking about tour dates."

What you just read was the first half of an essay I turned in to the folks behind the Touch & Go book last year. I’m publishing it here because, well, it was cut out of the book and it serves as a good jumping off point for Steve Miller. Apart from being the singer for The Fix and Blight back during T&G’s heyday, Steve was the editor of the behemoth literary feat that is the Touch & Go book. A cursory look of the T&G book will immediately make one realize the somewhat under-appreciated, yet unquestionably important, role Steve had.


Yes, go buy this NOW.

Now, I had a pretty lengthy interview with Mr. Tesco Vee a little while past, but I feel so strongly about the book that has come out that I believe a Q&A with Mr. Miller is mandatory. So I sat down, cranked out some questions and little more than 48 hours later, my in-box was filled with answers.

Also, in honor of Steve’s involvement with the early hardcore scene and/or Touch & Go, I’m including a *gasp* radio broadcast of The Fix from Club Doo Bee in Lansing back in 1981 where they shared the stage with (fellow T&G’ers) The Necros.

So how did you fit in to T&G’s existence during the late 70’s and early 80’s?
We were a band that played music that the guys at T&G liked. We had known of them before The Fix started as wise ass locals with a little magazine that had some reviews of stuff we wanted to learn about. Then I met DS [Dave Stimson -ed] at the Census Bureau office, where we both worked in May 1980. The Fix was new and I invited DS to a party we were playing, where he was somewhat shocked that we were actually great. He spread the word to Tesco and in June we played some little room at the back of a restaurant and he loved it as well. By the end of the year, they wanted us to do a single for this thing they called a label. We were honored of course, and it gave the whole thing a great deal more direction. I mean, we had to wonder who the fuck would care about a record by us. But we weren’t going to refuse the opportunity. They believed in us as much as we did, although our reasons for existence were somewhat complex – we wanted to confront people with a sound that we heard in our heads that came running out our hands and hearts. And T&G understood it. You know, none of this means T&G was a rubber stamp for The Fix. DS berated us a couple of times. I think once was for his misplaced perception that we were too focused on appearance. And another time he mistakenly thought we might have been behind some head bashing at one of our increasingly infrequent live shows, as in our pals were conducting the stomping. Overall, we all got along well together and the book does a good job of following that.

How would you describe T&G in relation to the music scene and/or other zines/publications?
It was kind of the water tower. All things flowed from it in terms of serious local music, and its national role increased with every issue. There were others with similarly great ideas and a willingness to tell it straight up, like Your Flesh. There were other ‘zines that were simply boosters, like Ripper on the West Coast and the Big Takeover. None could carry the sense of humor that T&G had though. Tesco and DS were just plain funny.


The Fix

Seeing as how The Fix only released a very limited amount of material, how powerful was T&G’s endorsement in print and subsequently releasing your two singles?
It meant a lot to us because we were not following the program at all and to be kind of the lone rangers meant that we had to be gratified by our own music. T&G embraced us and that meant we didn’t just have to look at each other and say, ‘hey, nice set.’ And people are followers by nature, so when T&G endorsed us, there were some who eventually felt it was okay to listen. That helped a lot. With the records, it was simply advertising in the magazine and they handed off some records to us. We didn’t know what to do. Hell, I think Mike and I each gave one to our moms, fer god’s sake. We just had no idea what to do with them. No one we knew really liked us. It wasn’t as if we had a cadre of punks hanging at The Fix house.

It seems like The Fix has a permanent place in the altar of hardcore. How do you react to that?
Cult band.

So between the early 80’s and, say, two years ago, were you still in pretty routine contact with TV and DS?
Tesco and I kept in touch over the years, especially when email came along. DS I hadn’t seen for years before running into him at a record show someplace in Maryland. I was living in Washington DC and had run onto people who told me he was around but it was a random meeting that got us together.

Whose idea was it to do a book? Who brought Ian Christe’s Bazillion Points imprint into the picture?
I had mentioned it to Tesco at some point when I moved back to Michigan in 2005  – I had been working for 14 years in Dallas and Washington D.C. – and so we decided to get a proposal together. We went to the local Kinko’s with a briefcase containing the original issues and went to town copying the best stuff, whatever we thought best represented the magazine. Then I wrote a proposal treatment with the ideas for essays, flyers and so on. We pitched it to a guy I knew who had a publishing house in California and he didn’t share our vision for a complete reissue, so we sat on it for a while. I subsequently put together a book proposal for a true crime book connected to a story I wrote for People magazine, and that sold quickly through a friend who served as agent, Chris Fuller. So I told him about the Touch & Go thing, and he loved it. So Fuller took it around and it was he who arrived at the doorstep of Bazillion Points. Smart guy for a lawyer.

As the editor of an anthology of T&G, what exactly were you doing for the project?
Reading, writing, encouraging, organizing, fixing, rinse, repeat.

As far as timelines go, when did you get involved in the book and how much time did it consume until it ended?
From the start to the end. In the middle there was considerable heavy lifting from the graphics guys, which I stayed out of. In the initial stages, before this book was ever sold, we would discuss layout and the dream scenario, which pretty much came true thanks to Ian Christe. At one point, maybe 2007, I took a bunch of different types of covers of books and laid them all out  on a table at my place and asked Tesco to look and see what he liked best. He liked one very similar to what we have today.

In relation to the throwaway/disposable nature of current music journalism, how relevant/pertinent do you think a T&G book is?
A complete history, the intersection of Hustler, the New Testament and Circus. And those three are forever, right?

Describe what went through your mind once the book landed in your hands.
I have a poor capacity to enjoy the present and I regret that. I think I was wondering what was next. I did sort of smile when I ran my fingers over the lifted text on the cover. By the time something comes out, be it a record or a book, I am usually consumed by the next thing.

Although the book has only been out a couple weeks, what have the reactions/reviews been like?
Read ‘em and pause a happy pause. Takes one second then it’s gone. Always good to see something worthwhile appreciated, since the good shit gets ignored too frequently.

Has it already exceeded your expectations? Did you even have any expectations?
I had no expectations, never once wondered how it would be received. Sort of like making music; you’re gonna make it no matter what, because you have to. And it’s cool if someone likes it. And if they don’t it’s fine because you did what you had to do.

The Fix – Live at Club Doo Bee 1981

DRUMROLL PLEASE: AxCx Song Title Contest Winner!

After long hours, nay…days, of consulting an array of experts from every State and many Nations around the globe, with marathon sessions of debate, arguments, and mediation, pot after pot of black coffee and pack after pack of smokes, with charts, graphs and mathematical formulas, yet no fisticuffs, we have determined the winning entry in the Chunklet AxCx Song Title Contest:

"Windchimes Are Gay" IS THEE GREATEST AxCx SONG TITLE EVER! As Posted by MacDara @ 07/21/2010 07:59 PM!

This proud winner will get to write their very own AxCx song title, have it written, recorded, granted liner note credits and of course greased a free copy of the 7" when complete. Oh the glory! This is all part of much broader undertaking, details as they become available from the powers that be.


Gay.

There were many great entries but that one just sealed it. After all, what’s better than to slur an inanimate object? The second place prize of the other stupid 7" (be it Jimmy Eat World or The Mighty Mighty Bossstones) could be available to any of these oh so close runners up: (Hit us up via the contact page, maybe we can make the magic happen?)

Women: Nature’s Punching Bag
Posted by Derek @ 07/24/2010 09:37 PM

"You Have Goals"
Posted by Stoat Mixen @ 07/19/2010 01:25 AM

Being a Cobbler Is Dumb
Posted by Adam D’Andrea @ 07/18/2010 11:37 AM

"Being Ignorant Is Awesome"
Posted by hensley @ 07/24/2010 09:44 PM

"I Ate Your Horse"
Posted by pdf @ 07/18/2010 02:44 PM

Look for the FULL DETAILS of the AxCx project which you can still get in on courtesy of Limited Appeal Records. – just click the Seth Putnam Contest Tab! Thanks for playing, you should all be very, very proud of yourselves. Except for that one dick.

(Runner-up prizes have all been claimed, contest here complete, check the LAR link for other goodies via them.)

Keepin’ It Classy: A.C. Style. Song Title Contest!

Its time has come. In the comment section name your favorite Anal Cunt song title of all time. If yours is picked as the, uh, ‘winner’(?) – then you shall receive your choice of either a Jimmy Eat World 7” or a Mighty Mighty Bosstones 7”. I know what you’re thinking; "what do those bands have to do with A.C.?" NOTHING! If any of it made sense, it’d be less fun. How will the winner be chosen? Hell, I don’t know. We’ll read them all and it will dawn on us like a light switch being hit – BOOM, that’s the "funniest" one. But wait, there’s more. We have rules and they must be followed:


red on black attack

Rule 1. Must be a real, non-augmented/edited A.C. tune.
Rule 2. All comments must be just the song title. None of this "I saw AC back in 1993 at basement show" crap. Please, no stories/commentary. Keep things on track and moving.
Rule 3. No lists. ONE song per comment/poster (Sorry Oliver, et, al.) -and don’t try that fake name maneuver, we can spot that crap. Besides, just be cool & don’t ruin that sport of it all. Take your time, pick wisely, and hope for the best. And watch out that you don’t repeat an already selected A.C. gem. (And yeah, it’s a web search nightmare…or dream?) Plus, need we mention, it’s just a joke, relax, have fun.

This Just In!
HUGE PRIZE WINNER NEWS! – who ever the lucky soul is that takes home the Championship to this sucker will now receive :(GET THIS!)
***To dream up a song title for AxCx/Seth to record.
(given it’s not completely over the top, I can’t be part of that.)
***Their name in the liner notes.
***And a free copy of the record. (7" I believe?)
So, you still have to select a REAL A.C. tune as your entry (there are only a few hundred left…) & some folks are repeating ones, so watch it. And now not only could you win an incredibly insipid 7" – but have a shot at true immorality/
Immortality !

(ALL PRIOR RULES MUST STILL BE FOLLOWED, & IT’S ANYBODY’S BALLGAME. GOOD LUCK & GOD BLESS. Billy.)

Dust Off That Gas Station Jacket, Kid! Universal Order Of Armageddon To Reunite!

It’s kinda hard not to say that Universal Order of Armageddon were one of the real stand-outs of early 90’s hardcore the same way that you can’t mention UOA in the same breath as Born Against. They were both just so important and influential at the same time. I don’t think Gravity Records would even have existed without UOA. Or is that too bold a statement?

I was lucky enough to see UOA at a warehouse party in Baltimore over the holidays in….’94? Much like you’d expect me to say, they were a band that weren’t even remotely appreciated during their existence, but now? They’re considered…..titans, I guess?

Anyway, I would’ve just let their reunion be mentioned in bigger avenues, but I’ve not seen a peep of it anywhere. And well, you gotta prepare for your summer road trips, right?


UOA live. c James Bertram

The kind folks at Wham City have UOA reuniting on Saturday July 24 at Whartscape. Twin Stumps are even on the same stage! Yeah, I know, get pumped! And well, seeing as how one of the tapes from the legendary Chris Thomson 2009 Tape Dump was a tape simply saying "Universal Order of Armageddon DC March ’94" on it I thought I’d include these live snippets of the band. I’m guessing this tape ended up in Chris’s mitts because UOA drummer Brooks Headley went on to play in Mr. Thomson’s Skull Control. So there…

Okay, Baltimore, kudos. But what’s next? Moss Icon doing a tour with Reptile House?

Universal Order Of Armageddon – live1

Universal Order Of Armageddon – live2

Universal Order Of Armageddon – live3

Fun On Stage With Bob Weston IV of Shellac: Part 2 (+ Bonus EP)

So that first part of the Bob Weston Q&A double album got around, huh? From what I can gather, comments ranged from "comedy gold" to "unbearable" so I guess the properly gauged reaction is nestled somewhere there in the middle, wouldn’t you say?


In Portugal pt1, courtesy of Clint Conley

"I can answer your question if you take back the photo of my bruised ass." So sayeth Bob earlier today when I contacted him about an unrelated mastering related question. And well, if anybody is to blame for that photo, all eyes should wander to his lovely wife, Carrie, who presented said photo to us. Do you know not of what I speak? Well, when the mp3 for this second part of the Bob Weston ‘comedy album’ pops up in iTunes, you’ll know exactly what I’m talkin’ about. Personally I think it’s hilarious, but no take-backs. Sorry ’bout that.

And without further ado, here’s part two!


In Portugal pt2, courtesy of Clint Conley

After more than a couple people got in touch with additional recordings, our dutiful audio editor pasted together a ‘bonus’ EP mostly focusing on Bob’s fellow bandmate Steve who (among other incidents) unleashes vitriol to hipsters in Brooklyn and extols fatherly advice to elementary school kids in North Carolina.

It’s short. It’s sharp. And it’s a perfect companion piece.

And although I already said this, thanks to Bob and the rest of Shellac for being such good sports.

Enjoy.


Bob with his ‘drank’, courtesy Carrie Weston

Shellac – Fun With Bob pt 2

Shellac – Bonus EP

INTERVIEW: David Yow. His Art. A Gallery Exhibit. And Nary A Glimpse of His Ass.

There’s only one musician and/or artist who introduced himself to me in a Pittsburgh bathroom by pinching my ass while I was mid-stream. Yes, and although that encounter was nineteen years and six months ago, David Yow continues to be one-of-a-kind.

And sure, Mssr. Yow has been interviewed countless times about The Jesus Lizard, Scratch Acid and Qui, but what you’re reading here is the very first time he’s talked exclusively about his art. "His art?" you say. "Yes! And he’s got an exhibit in LA next month," I say. David has diligently been painting, assembling and working on his first one man show since Jimmy Carter was in office. Remember Jimmy? Yes, we here in Georgia still are very fond of him.

Anyway, in an effort to help pique the interest of art collectors and fans of Mr. Yow alike, David was kind enough to answer a handful of questions that took him away from his studio for only a l’il while. Click here for a further glimpse into his work. And hey, who doesn’t like to see what kinda art that high falutin’ folk like Gavin Rossdale own?

So let’s start off with the obvious, why has it taken you so long to have your own art exhibit?
This is my second one-man show. The first was in 1979 at Southwest Texas State University where I was majoring in Fine Art. As I recall, a piece sold at that show for $250 and I felt like I was robbing the girl who bought it.

But to answer your question, I haven’t really devoted any energy to  painting or drawing for quite some time. A year or so ago, Kevin Rutmanis introduced me to a fellow named Terrill Lewis who runs the DIY Gallery here in LA. Kevin was having a one-man show (his stuff is SO cool!) and Terrill asked if I’d like to exhibit some of my crap in the future. At the end of May, Terrill suggested a show of my own in August and I told him I only had four pieces that I could put up [all of which] were already hanging in his gallery. So, I’ve been treating this very much like a job [where I] get up early and paint or draw or whatever for 8 to 12 hours a day in order to have enough stuff to fill the DIY by August 14.


cRyan Russell (this was shot at Whirlyball Atlanta!)

Your art (both hand- and computer-done) started in the mid-80’s. Did it spawn out of your early Toxic Shock posters or were you doing art well before then?
I was doing it before then. I drew a BUNCH as a kid, then focused on art classes in high school and aimed at a BFA in college.

When did you start doing art on a computer?
I learned Photoshop around ’92 and fucked with it during the Jesus Lizard days. After the band broke up in ’99, I started doing photo-retouching as a living and had developed a pretty good bag of tricks and a respectable level of skill.

Compared to your now considerable chops, do you look back at your early computer designs and cringe?
Ha, I don’t know if I’d cringe. We were all babies once, Henry.

Your art seems to grab liberally from a few movements (dada, modern primitive, some might even say "bowel"), but how would you describe your art?
Geesh, I dunno! In college I became very good friends with one of my art teachers, a guy named Mark Todd. Mark had (still does) an incredible sense for composition. He can manipulate the space in a rectangle as well as anybody in the “high art” world. My work still shows a pretty strong tip-o-the-hat to Mark.

There is a fair deal of humor in a lot of these pieces I’ve been doing, fairly juvenile humor. I suppose the same could be said of most of the songs I’ve written. I’m real funny.

With the amount of work I’ve been cranking out in the last two months, I have asked myself the same question that I’m trying to answer right now. The single most prevalent characteristic in the drawings, paintings and digital pieces is texture. Kinda seems like I’m trying to create compositions that somehow depict an environment or a spatial depth full of shapes and elements that may or may not have any relationship to each other outside of these particular boundaries. What?

You’re also doing computer designed art as well. Are they done in a manner similar to when you have paint and a brush? How are they different?
The methodologies for the actual paintings and the digital ones are very different. The digital pieces are compiled from a lot of photographic textures, either photos I took, or photos I swiped off Mr. Internet. Then, with Photoshop magic, I will completely change lighting and shadow and reflection and color and on and on. The digital thingamabobs also, almost always, have line drawings that I do on paper and then scan and import into the textural image.

The actual paintings nearly paint themselves. I have found that if I have a preconceived notion of what I want a painting to look like, it rarely, if ever, works out well. I’ll have a portion of a piece done and what ever is there quite often suggests what should come next. Or if I fuck something up, it will sometimes start a whole new direction for that piece. Most of these paintings have gone through several metamorphoses by the time they get a frame stuck on ‘em.

I didn’t realize that some of these pieces are actually taller than you. Why have you decided to go with such large formats? Also, what are the ranges in size of your pieces?
When Terrill and I first discussed this upcoming show, he said he’d like to have some large works in it. The biggest painting I had ever done up until that point was about 4’x3’. Now the largest is 4 times that big at 8’x6’. It’s not easy doing a picture that big when you have stumpy little arms like I do.

The smallest piece, as of this writing, is 6.5”x7”. I’m working on a digital one that will go into a large, elaborately sculpted, wooden oval frame that is approximately, 5’ high by 3.5’ wide.

Why do you use wood as a medium instead of more traditional mediums like paper or canvas?
I do occasionally work on paper, or have paper collaged onto these things. I don’t like the sort of bouncy-bouncy trampoline-ness of canvas. Don’t like the built-in texture of it either. Yeah.

After the exhibit at the DIY gallery, do you have any other exhibits planned?
There are a few tentative plans floating around now. Chicago is very likely, but nothing is confirmed yet. I hope to be doing this shit for a while, so I reckon New York, London, Paris, Berlin, Amsterdam, etc.

Creatively, how does doing art by yourself differ from being in a band?
Nice question. There is an analogy to be drawn here. I think the biggest difference is that I don’t have to compromise at all when doing this art type stuff. That is to say all the decision-making is mine, a total lack of collaboration. The similarities are the processes themselves, and the discernable evolution that songs go through and that these paintings go through.

And finally, David, any parting words?
Thank you Henry.

David Yow’s one-man gallery show at DIY Gallery (Los Angeles) opens on Saturday August 14 at 7:00pm


“Chair”

Fun On Stage With Bob Weston IV of Shellac: Part 1

As many of you know, back in the later half of last year, Chunklet posted the now-legendary Fugazi stage banter recording. After it made the rounds, people would suggest bands that should be done next. Of course, with me having a life it was hard to go forth with every suggestion that was thrown in the ring, but the one that struck a personal chord (with me, at least) was a no-brainer: Shellac. Or more specifically: Bob Weston’s Q&A sessions.


Robert Weston IV tuning (note Mooninite wristbands)

Bob Weston’s Q&A can’t be viewed as anything other than comic relief, and this is well aware to all parties at their performances. And as you’ll hear on this double album set (clocking in at 1h45m, pared down from 3h40m), Bob gets to field questions on any number of subjects and depending on the subject, his band mates join in on answering questions. It’s fun. It’s light. And well…Bob also has to endure his fair share of inebriated attendees. Some might even call them ‘assholes’, but we’ll let you be the judge.

Back in December, when I ran into Bob and mentioned this idea for inclusion on the site, he initially laughed, got quiet for a minute, laughed some more, scratched his chin, paused again and then gave it his blessing. So there y’have it.


Shellac in London

And this brings us to now. A contributor, who shall remain nameless, compiled almost four hours of Bob talking at Shellac shows from 1993 up to this year, over ninety shows from five continents of varying fidelity levels from a slew of different traders around the world. Now, Shellac’s stance on recording their shows is pretty widely known. However, regardless of a band’s wishes for the opposite, live documents will continue to exist. And man, there are some super nerds out there who collect these recordings like baseball cards. It’s absolutely nuts. Don’t believe me? Google it. Editing-wise, repetitive questions have been deleted. All of Bob’s "What?"s or "Huh?"s or "Speak Louder"s have been removed to keep the pace moving steadily.

Hopefully this collection will make you laugh as it did us here. Will this possibly inspire more imaginative questions? Let’s hope. If anything, this stage banter collection can act as a primer for those that come in the future. Additionally, this is only part one. Part two is mostly done, but who knows? Maybe one of you diligent readers out there has something for inclusion? Hey, y’never know, huh?

All pix courtesy Carrie Weston. Thanks, Carrie.


Bob cooling off in LA

Shellac – Fun With Bob pt 1

Samizdat: Nine To Get Out (Athens 80’s Tape Comp Series)

There comes a time when there are few rocks left to turn over after living in Georgia for twenty years and then something like this just lands in my lap.

From what I’ve been able to find out, there were a total of two editions of the Samizdat tape series and this is the first that I’ll post here on the site. As you can gather from the J card, there’s minimal information and well, apart from the ‘names’ that I know, there’s nothing else I can offer up.


The “J Card” (industry lingo)

Bar-B-Q Killers: A legendary Athens band that I’ve gushed about here on the site in the past. Doing a cover of "Magnet and Steel".
Porn Orchard: Yet another legendary band. Ted Hafer later redid this song with Six String Fever which can be connected back to Harvey Milk.
JackONuts: Like duh. Another legend from Athens’ past. This was, from what I can gather, before Laura Carter (not the Elf Power one) joined the band.
Vic Chesnutt: God, this is getting unintentionally sad and/or redundant, but here’s another brilliant, legendary and now deceased artist. This was early on in his stay in town.
Mercyland: Another one of the senior class bands that was muttered in hushed tones when I moved to town featuring the inimitable Dave Barbe. Saw a reunion show in ’94 (or thereabouts) and this past spring at Vic’s memorial show weekend at the 40 Watt. Truly great. Recorded live at CBGB.
Tanzplagen: A recording project loosely affiliated with Michael Stipe and led by the infamous Tom Smith.


The only credits on the entire release….

In an effort to find out more information, I’d love it if people involved with the project or foik from Athens back then could shed some light on the other bands on this release or perhaps more information on the compilation series in general.

Including additional tracks by Die Monster Die, Dr Mandible’s Beast Orchestra and Damage Report (or at least I think that’s who it is) and hoping we can all, together, fill in the blanks.

Oh, and do you want a high quality rip of the cassette? Then click here.

Thanks to Arthur for lending me his copy of this tape.

Porn Orchard – Black Tidal Wave

Tanzplagen – Treachery

Dr Mandibles Beast Orchestra – Mr Nice Guy

JackONuts – You’re Doing It All Wrong

Vic Chesnutt – Mr Riley

Damage Report – Silencer

Die Monster Die – Perfect Picture

Bar BQ Killers – Maggots and Steel

Mercyland – Down (live)

So You Think Getting A Tattoo From Us Is Still A Good Idea?

Sent in from our good pal Chris Wilson whilst on tour with Teddy Rockstar and the Pharmacists. His email reads:

"took these two pictures last month whilst on tour in ‘yurp and thought you might appreciate them. they’re  from the dressing room at K4 in nurenberg. enjoy!"

So we’re adding these to the mountain of tattoo ideas that we’re willing to finance. We do require a deposit (just to keep people from backing out).

Big posts forthcoming.